I just retured a new Toshiba laptop because VISTA was loaded on it. After a week of hell I had to dump it. I thought it might have been a problem with the Toshiba computer AND VISTA combo or maybe just bad luck so I bought another "different" HP laptop yesterday with VISTA loaded on it. After two more days of VISTA HELL I'm returning the second laptop tomorrow and buying a MAC. How could they screw up so bad? I'm buying my first MAC tomorrow. All it needs to do is work and MAC will have me for twenty years.